Dec 6, 2012 10:00pm EST
in new york which six years later is still the big glass granddaddy of them all. back then, steve jobs was as usual all about the future. >> we've got some really great ideas of the products we're going to build next year and the year after that we're working really hard on. i think our focal length is always forward. >> he was all black turtleneck and glass frames and mystical and mysterious. forgive me, you and i could work at a best buy, we're plain-looking people. you're a much more conventional, seeming, guy. but there's obviously brainpower he saw in you that you brought to bear on this job. >> i'm not sure a conventional person would have come to apple at that point in time. almost everyone i know thought i was crazy. >> that's because apple was on the ropes back in 1998. steve jobs had just come back and was trying to steal cook away from compaq computer, a name that was actually vibrant back then. >> i'd just gotten to compaq, just gotten to houston. i agreed to come out and talk. five minutes into the talk with him, i'm wanting to throw caution to the wind and come to apple.